Inside Exercise @inside_exercise
A #podcast where 30+ yr researcher Emeritus Professor @GlennMcConell1 chats with the who’s who in #exercise research. Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube etc. youtube.com/@insideexercise Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Joined June 2022-
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Now online A fun chat! I learnt a stack. Irene feels many running injuries due to heel striking with cushioned shoes. We haven’t adapted to them. Instead: -minimalist shoes -forefoot landing Also: -Most don’t need orthotics -Sometimes good to alter gait
We had a really good chat. To prevent injuries it is very important to be careful with training load. This involves a lot more than just looking at the weekly running distance. Lots of interesting points to consider. I learnt a lot. Thanks Rasmus Online in 2-3 weeks.
We had a really good chat. To prevent injuries it is very important to be careful with training load. This involves a lot more than just looking at the weekly running distance. Lots of interesting points to consider. I learnt a lot. Thanks Rasmus Online in 2-3 weeks.
Looking forward to chatting in 2 days with Dr Rasmus Østergaard Nielsen from Aarhus University in Denmark. Topic: Running-related injuries. Including training load and injury and shoes and injury. The 2nd in a series on running injuries. 1st one not online yet. Any questions?
Now online A really great chat. Lots of interesting stuff, including belief effects. The power of placebos etc. Also many insights from his time at the Australian Institute of Sport, Cycling Australia and the Philadelphia 76ers. His current work. Thanks @davidtmartin
@inside_exercise @GlennMcConell1 I went back to some of your previous podcasts. True experts and no one is selling anything! Just a bunch of curious, extremely capable scientists who love exercise and and want to know how things work. Incredible! Thanks for the opportunity.
@noahcracknelll If you want something both relaxing and a bit nerdy in the physiology realm — check out @inside_exercise if you’re not already a listener
A really great chat! Thanks @IreneSDavis Irene feels running injuries often due to heel striking because using cushioned shoes. We haven’t adapted to them. Instead: -minimalist shoes -forefoot landing Also: -Most don’t need orthotics -Sometimes good to alter gait Online soon
A really great chat! Thanks @IreneSDavis Irene feels running injuries often due to heel striking because using cushioned shoes. We haven’t adapted to them. Instead: -minimalist shoes -forefoot landing Also: -Most don’t need orthotics -Sometimes good to alter gait Online soon
Looking forward to talking in 2 days with Professor Irene Davis from the University of South Florida. Current President of the American College of Sports Medicine.@IreneSDavis Topic: Running injuries. Including do shoes make any difference, should change gait etc Any questions?
We had a really great chat Lots of interesting stuff, including belief effects. The power of placebos etc. Also many insights from his time at the Australian Institute of Sport, Cycling Australia and the Philadelphia 76ers. His current work. Thanks @davidtmartin Online soon
We had a really great chat Lots of interesting stuff, including belief effects. The power of placebos etc. Also many insights from his time at the Australian Institute of Sport, Cycling Australia and the Philadelphia 76ers. His current work. Thanks @davidtmartin Online soon
Fabulous podcast episode of @inside_exercise covering rehab, advanced exercise physiology and elite endurance sports. A great listen! Nice work @GlennMcConell1
Fabulous podcast episode of @inside_exercise covering rehab, advanced exercise physiology and elite endurance sports. A great listen! Nice work @GlennMcConell1
@inside_exercise Brilliant podcast, thanks all. Inspirational @mhaykows @ESprink
Great podcast! Have had the pleasure of hearing Mark Haykowsky talk about these extraordinary athletes last year @BIOMED_UHasselt ! Inspiring!👍
Great podcast! Have had the pleasure of hearing Mark Haykowsky talk about these extraordinary athletes last year @BIOMED_UHasselt ! Inspiring!👍
Now online. Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube etc Mind blown Dwight Kroening: First HT Ironman triathlete Elmar Sprink: Completed Hawaii Ironman and Cape Epic after HT Both reached VO2 maxes of 58 ml/kg/min post HT! Prof Mark Haykowsky has done amazing research around it all
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@inside_exercise @davidtmartin muscle & bone health. Supplements guilty of spending a fortune over decades but now days not so hooked thanks to the integrity of some non profiting dieticians, sports enthusiasts...except vit D, fish oil, curcumin & Mg. Thankyou for this podcast, always improving my knowledge.
@inside_exercise @davidtmartin Enjoyed learning and listening, darn I've 4x Alpha in my fridge😁, listening while in gym RT, gulp pilates, yoga, pelaton... thought of doing as easier on my tight, stiff & achy body at times. Recognise not enough muscle, osteopenia so encouraging to hear David discuss
@Dyer_John @inside_exercise Nothing wrong with hill running. Everything in moderation. Progressively add them into your running, but not too much too soon.
@inside_exercise Is Knee osteoarthritis compatible with running? If so, How to run to minimise pain?
@inside_exercise Recovery with achilles tendinopathy/ tendinitis. Concentric vs eccentric vs isometric work, stretching, back to running protocol. Should you vary intensity/speed, shoes.
@inside_exercise So many questions! plantar fasciitis running on sand & sloped near water "Hobby running" vs. athletic running As you get older your feet don't come up as high (tripping on stuff) Totally flat vs. adding in hills Running when older (>60) (jogging?) Winter weight training
@inside_exercise @KevinMurachPhD I did! Sounded like a great conversation, glad it worked out!
@Kahlissee This is my video/ interview — please credit 🤝
For a week I embedded myself with Jewish Israeli nationalists who believe it’s a worthy cause and religious duty to block desperately needed humanitarian aid at the Gaza border. They enjoyed pastries with the military while confessing to war crimes and cheering for genocide.…
@inside_exercise Any interest in getting the man, the myth, the legend, Dr. Frank Booth on?
@inside_exercise @Millar_Lab Perhaps Arthur Weltman to discuss lactate, growth hormone, etc
@DrGregGrosicki @inside_exercise Thanks for the endorsement @DrGregGrosicki! Perhaps I’m not senior enough to be one of the cool kids
@inside_exercise Got to get @KevinMurachPhD on the horn. One of the best in the field of muscle regulation out there right now.
@inside_exercise @davidtmartin I put put the accessibility setting to mono to get around this on an iPhone.
This will be a must watch. Dr. Martin approved my Master's degree research, and was third examiner when I submitted my MPhil. Also listened to him in Leeds in 2014, where he perfectly described how a sport scientist works with coach's.
Now online A really great chat. Lots of interesting stuff, including belief effects. The power of placebos etc. Also many insights from his time at the Australian Institute of Sport, Cycling Australia and the Philadelphia 76ers. His current work. Thanks @davidtmartin
@inside_exercise @GlennMcConell1 The Prof. David Costill interview did not disappoint. For anyone who has been influenced by Costill's work this is a great conversation. youtube.com/watch?v=tNVVQW…
@inside_exercise @GlennMcConell1 I went back to some of your previous podcasts. True experts and no one is selling anything! Just a bunch of curious, extremely capable scientists who love exercise and and want to know how things work. Incredible! Thanks for the opportunity.
Links to the @inside_exercise podcast: Spotify:open.spotify.com/show/3pSYnNSXD… Apple:podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/ins… P.S. They have over 80 other really cool exercise science chats!
Mark had so much fun sharing his insight and knowledge on the @inside_exercise podcast recently! He has ben able to meet and study TWO heart transplant recipients who have gone on to complete in high level endurance events (Ironman etc). Listen to the podcast here ⬇️
Now online. Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube etc Mind blown Dwight Kroening: First HT Ironman triathlete Elmar Sprink: Completed Hawaii Ironman and Cape Epic after HT Both reached VO2 maxes of 58 ml/kg/min post HT! Prof Mark Haykowsky has done amazing research around it all
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