DaveGreen-Unofficial @FakeDaveGreen
🔞 trailing-edge tech advocacy also at: https://t.co/y0Ia3TNd3o… https://t.co/LSoBCGQDlM… previously: Need To Know, Amiga Power, GLR Breakfast fakebitpolytechnic.com South London Joined October 2010-
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This weekend myself, @MJWright7 & @spcoffeemachine are taking the challenge. Just the 3 of us, 1 is in Manchester & 2 in London, we are using iPhones, the cabin at the end of the garden & a friend who might pop round to help out! Should be interesting… #sfl48hr #shortfilm
This weekend myself, @MJWright7 & @spcoffeemachine are taking the challenge. Just the 3 of us, 1 is in Manchester & 2 in London, we are using iPhones, the cabin at the end of the garden & a friend who might pop round to help out! Should be interesting… #sfl48hr #shortfilm
S Club 7 remain evasive about what the S stands for, and have never denied that it's like a Heinlein "S-group" where they are all each other's "husbands" and "wives" x.com/moderndayntk/s…
S Club 7 remain evasive about what the S stands for, and have never denied that it's like a Heinlein "S-group" where they are all each other's "husbands" and "wives" x.com/moderndayntk/s… https://t.co/9AcmNpTtXC
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Really tired of all the abuse I take as a phone scammer. You don't want your bogus free vacation? Fine, just say that.
um actually, four of saturn's moons are also the "just right" size for total eclipses w the corona also saturn's rings can make eclipses too. sick (from minutephysics)
Rob Manuel 🍳 @robmanuel
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Jonty Wareing ⍼ @jonty
9K Followers 2K Following This is suddenly getting much higher-profile than I intended Escape plan: https://t.co/QCYjfQ21Aj Backup escape plan: https://t.co/bPJQufNHVu
Andy Riley @AndyRileyish
14K Followers 939 Following Scriptwriter/author/cartoonist/producer. Repped by Curtis Brown (Lily Williams for screen work, Gordon Wise for books and artwork)
christhebarker @christhebarker
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Ed Jefferson @edjeff
4K Followers 1K Following writes/codes/talks about things no-one else would bother to. e dot jefferson at gmail. he/him. @edjeff elsewhere also. hmm
Phil Gyford @philgyford
3K Followers 323 Following No longer reading Twitter. Find me on Mastodon at https://t.co/0gyLdauZtD // Responsible for @samuelpepys, @OohDirectory and @todaysguardian
Matt Webb 🌸🌼�.. @genmon
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Matthew Garrett (@mjg.. @mjg59
29K Followers 310 Following Not here. Fedi: @[email protected] Bsky: @mjg59.eicar-test-file.zip Signal: @mjg.59 Blog: https://t.co/CVivdtMBWe
Tom Stuart @tomstuart
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Steve Bowbrick @bowbrick
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Dan "Quietly Quit" Ho.. @hondanhon
19K Followers 8K Following Account lock, deprecation and preservation protocol activated. Make friends, break silos, build bridges. Don't DM me here. https://t.co/ezLrMMYPXB
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2K Followers 2K Following I need a new bio but I have no idea who I am any more. Possibly an artist? So tired of extremely internet. Meanwhile: Rather portly and powered by gin.
Modern Day NTK @ModernDayNTK
642 Followers 320 Following via https://t.co/AIn9eBI9Az : premier lifestyle destination for '90s dotcom burnouts and has-beens
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Hello Gillian @mippy
2K Followers 4K Following I should have just got a job on the bins; the pay is better and I'd know some hard blokes
Nick Holway @nickholway
516 Followers 2K Following Brit in Basel. Works in HPC for @NovartisScience. Tweets about HPC, bioinformatics, drug discovery, R, Python, image processing, machine learning etc.
Jean @jeanroy54
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Judy @judy_jones76
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Jamie Stedmond @JamieJamston
194 Followers 231 Following dumb kid, big forehead | Writing in: @thetangerinemag, @bansheelit, @PoetryIreland, @TheDublinReview and elsewhere
Oliver Morton @Eaterofsun
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108 Followers 3K Following
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Rob Kam @r0bk4m
38 Followers 96 Following Has socially progressive and liberal opinions. Cyclist. Enjoys electronic circuitry. Doesn't post much. Dysgu Cymraeg yn araf iawn. https://t.co/4c1MNfrSSH
Jasper Ted Vidal Tale @JasperTedTale
292 Followers 939 Following 1.Politically: Left Wing Marxist-Leninist (And probably a maoist?). 2.Probably has social anxiety. 3.Philosophy: Antinatalism. 4.Favorite 1-Bit Sound: PC Beeper
Erica Whyman @EricaWhyman
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Lloyd Shepherd @lloydshep
3K Followers 638 Following Wrote some novels like The English Monster. Makes a podcast called Curiously Specific. Can sleep anywhere.
The Shirker’s Rest @TheShirkersRest
2K Followers 871 Following A micropub in New Cross, SE14 🍻 Mon-Wed 3-11.30pm, Thur-Fri 3-12am, Sat 12-12am, Sun 1-10.30pm
Dave @zzdave13
188 Followers 2K Following
berry robert @berryrobert16
261 Followers 1K Following
Leo Silverberg @leosilverberg
180 Followers 663 Following designer, maker & space nerd @fdl_ai & @fdl_europe he/him
Kapudan Pasha @AdmiralPasha
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Andrew Lemon 🍋 lat.. @_lemon
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Abigail DeLayne Ramse.. @Miss_AbbyLayne
64 Followers 555 Following Zombie evangelist. Troublemaker. Reader. Alcohol scholar. Creator. Proud web maven. Evil wine enthusiast. Student.
Franki Love @FrankiLoveMusic
70K Followers 77K Following ✨”The Sky” is out now. Hit #1 on the New Age UK Itunes Charts ✨ https://t.co/K9I2H0Irvw for music creation support ✨
Caro @Liwella
581 Followers 698 Following Cosplays as a grown up. Organiser of @FantasyBookClu3 with @katepreach. @Reclamation2022 Committee member. Part of Team @SRFantasyClub. She/Her.
Alexandra D-S (she/he.. @iotwatch
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Callum Coates @coates_callum
361 Followers 276 Following Actor, history geek. Lover of things Vintage. Agents @MorwennaPreston and @Spoken4Voices. recently with Sheffield Crucible, ETT & Lyric Hammersmith & RSC.
Sarah Manvel @typewritersarah
2K Followers 5K Following 📚 You Ruin It When You Talk 🕵️@criticsnotebook @theirleague @movieswetexted @bookmunch🕺@dorianawards @theoaffc @ifscritics @filmcriticsuk 🇮🇪🇺🇲🏳️🌈
Richard Powley @RichardPowley
106 Followers 272 Following Views are mine, and those of the cute rat under my chef's hat that controls my cooking, only.
David Millington @GreenCorrie
509 Followers 3K Following Just this guy, you know? Centrist dad, likes mountains, books, music, all the usual stuff.
Curiously Specific @curiouslyspec
513 Followers 2K Following We like books. We like maps. We like dates. We like walks. We stuck them together and made a podcast. Presented by Tim (@moongolfer) and Lloyd (@lloydshep).
Ophelia Bottom @OpheliaBottom
3K Followers 5K Following TV producer @RefineryTV. Maker of @SMASHfestUK. Research Fellow. Infectious Diseases. PhD. Speaks: English, Scottish, Science. Fine line in swears.
Rob Manuel 🍳 @robmanuel
44K Followers 884 Following I do @b3ta / @fesshole / @anon_opin - email: robmanuel @ gmail dot com - Buy The New Fesstament: https://t.co/VVRUZVMkuT
Joel Morris @gralefrit
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Jonty Wareing ⍼ @jonty
9K Followers 2K Following This is suddenly getting much higher-profile than I intended Escape plan: https://t.co/QCYjfQ21Aj Backup escape plan: https://t.co/bPJQufNHVu
Tom Coates @tomcoates
42K Followers 1K Following New product strategy & development. Prev: BBC, Yahoo, Time Out, Nokia, Jawbone, Wired & Eero. Founded some stuff. Bluesky: https://t.co/h2AAT5beco
Andy Riley @AndyRileyish
14K Followers 939 Following Scriptwriter/author/cartoonist/producer. Repped by Curtis Brown (Lily Williams for screen work, Gordon Wise for books and artwork)
Ed Jefferson @edjeff
4K Followers 1K Following writes/codes/talks about things no-one else would bother to. e dot jefferson at gmail. he/him. @edjeff elsewhere also. hmm
Phil Gyford @philgyford
3K Followers 323 Following No longer reading Twitter. Find me on Mastodon at https://t.co/0gyLdauZtD // Responsible for @samuelpepys, @OohDirectory and @todaysguardian
Ben Hammersley @benhammersley
18K Followers 2K Following Involved from time to time. We generally do not discuss our purpose or plans. Tweets Auto-Delete.
Matt Webb 🌸🌼�.. @genmon
18K Followers 1K Following Maker of things like Poem/1 (AI hardware), Galactic Compass (iPhone app), founder Acts Not Facts. Blogger. Behind the mountains there are more mountains
Tom Stuart @tomstuart
4K Followers 301 Following The wind of nothingness blasts, unhindered, from every page. @[email protected]
Steve Bowbrick @bowbrick
5K Followers 6K Following Editor in Chief of GROSS - a chronological journey through every top-grossing movie since 1913… Header is a frame from 1941 Howard Hawks film Sergeant York.
Dan "Quietly Quit" Ho.. @hondanhon
19K Followers 8K Following Account lock, deprecation and preservation protocol activated. Make friends, break silos, build bridges. Don't DM me here. https://t.co/ezLrMMYPXB
Kim Plowright @mildlydiverting
2K Followers 2K Following I need a new bio but I have no idea who I am any more. Possibly an artist? So tired of extremely internet. Meanwhile: Rather portly and powered by gin.
Kieron Gillen @kierongillen
74K Followers 1K Following Words for sale. Account semi-retired. Solely retweets and hype. Newsletter: https://t.co/Xn3WxfJtjh Website/Contacts: https://t.co/JE3Wu5rUfE
Jodi @squirmelia
670 Followers 1K Following
Jane Martin 💙 @JaneCanDoSE4
7K Followers 2K Following Local Blogger.Passionate about SE London.Gutted about #Brexit.This Govt is corrupt.💕Tennis, Cycling, Films, Going Out,Community. Now retired & grandma to Jaya
Lorraine Bowen @Bowen707
8K Followers 2K Following OFFICIAL SITE of Lorraine Bowen | Quirky songstress | Earwormer | 14 million views for my #CrumbleSong on @BGT. LINKS:- https://t.co/nTug18ZUdb
Chris French 🇺🇦 @chriscfrench
8K Followers 719 Following Emeritus Prof, Anomalistic Psychology Research Unit, Goldsmiths, Greenwich Skeptics in the Pub https://t.co/XcwEnl7Gzu Rep’d by Mark Gottlieb at Trident Media Group
Richard Bates @AarrrBee
401 Followers 882 Following CTO @dri_HQ. Previously - SingStar technical director at Sony London Studio. Develop Conference advisory board member.
Ed Morrish @edmorrish
14K Followers 5K Following Leeds man & audio/comedy producer: @leadmojo JFSP Sinha @SoundHeapInc @anystupidqs etc. More jokes than opinions. I don't go on about my awards. Pic: @redfacts.
Llanci @Llanci
175 Followers 963 Following A loathsome being, constantly sinning against a disappointed god
Jamie Stedmond @JamieJamston
194 Followers 231 Following dumb kid, big forehead | Writing in: @thetangerinemag, @bansheelit, @PoetryIreland, @TheDublinReview and elsewhere
Hilary Chelminski @hilarychelminsk
56 Followers 135 Following Sculptress. Consultant. Co-Discoverer of Canova's "Recumbent" Magdalene. (Re-posting does not indicate endorsement or agreement.)
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56 Followers 328 Following audio producer, radio exec, sound stuff https://t.co/CVZNUTjS8A
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Nandini Jammi @nandoodles
100K Followers 3K Following Now: Co-Founder @CheckMyAdsHQ, Your Friendly Neighborhood Adtech Watchdog 🐾 / Prev: Co-Founder, @slpng_giants / BSky: @nandoodles.checkmyads.org
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162 Followers 418 Following Internet inhabitant and occasional man-with-camera
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Leonard Richardson @leonardr
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1K Followers 280 Following The Hill Station Social Enterprise. Built by the community for the community. Cafe, Food Pop-Ups, live music & independent shop. 9-4.30pm/9pm on weekends.
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Zelda Rhiando @badzelda
1K Followers 2K Following Human-centred designer, novelist, and founder of @BrixtonBookJam. Looking for an agent to represent my work!
Brixton BookJam @BrixtonBookJam
2K Followers 1K Following 'It's like speed dating for books' A FREE event for readers and writers. 'Brainfood for a Monday night.' Next event: 6th March 2023 @hootanannybrix
New Cross Learning @newxlearning
2K Followers 986 Following Formerly New Cross People's Library. Open to the public Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays. Open to new ideas all the time.
Nia Childs @nia_loves_films
6K Followers 638 Following I make films 🎥🎬 Writer // Director Occasional Curator (British Cinema) Londonophile. Free Palestine 🇵🇸
Toby Litt @tobylitt
7K Followers 7K Following Reader. Activist. Writer. Head of Creative Writing at the University of Southampton.
Andrew Lemon 🍋 lat.. @_lemon
3K Followers 3K Following 🇪🇺 Musician / Game Composer (∵ 96), Sound Dude, IGDA London Coordinator, Demoscener, Consultant, Educator. aka: ne7, citron, andy l, yojimbo. knob twiddler ▲
Matthew Steggle @MatthewSteggle
3K Followers 2K Following Prof of Early Modern Eng Lit @BristolUni. Shakespeare; other C16-17 stuff; @OxfordMarston; @LostPlaysDB. Views own. Also in the sky.
The Shirker’s Rest @TheShirkersRest
2K Followers 871 Following A micropub in New Cross, SE14 🍻 Mon-Wed 3-11.30pm, Thur-Fri 3-12am, Sat 12-12am, Sun 1-10.30pm
Caro @Liwella
581 Followers 698 Following Cosplays as a grown up. Organiser of @FantasyBookClu3 with @katepreach. @Reclamation2022 Committee member. Part of Team @SRFantasyClub. She/Her.
Matt Jones @matterbattle
235 Followers 0 Following Gone from here. Account is not regularly monitored / used. Head of Design, Lunar Energy (@the_lunarenergy) https://t.co/nerZHRp6kU
Alexandra D-S (she/he.. @iotwatch
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Sarah Manvel @typewritersarah
2K Followers 5K Following 📚 You Ruin It When You Talk 🕵️@criticsnotebook @theirleague @movieswetexted @bookmunch🕺@dorianawards @theoaffc @ifscritics @filmcriticsuk 🇮🇪🇺🇲🏳️🌈
David Wolstencroft @woollensocks
3K Followers 2K Following Writer-barista. Versailles. The Escape Artist. Spooks/MI-5. Novel: The Magic Hour. Theatre: Bleak Expectations. Film: Shooting Dogs. Coffee: Cortado please.
Ophelia Bottom @OpheliaBottom
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992 Followers 1K Following https://t.co/1yqItMXMTk Consultant Content Director, co-founder https://t.co/WtmKFMwONT and KOB Publishing.
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9 Followers 19 Following A Podcast that's floppy. Like B-Movies? Try B-Musicals! Available Soon On All Major Podcast Networks
Andrew Buchan @abuchanx
46 Followers 151 Following Not the actor, not the ice hockey player but still the Internet's favourite biscuit artisan
GigerPunk @GigerPunk
2K Followers 2K Following Learning to cope with bereavement a day at a time after losing @Gigervamp to cancer after 8 years of care. Vacillating wildly between computers, cats & crying.
Izzy Mant 💙 @Izzymant
3K Followers 1K Following Screenwriter and comedian. 'Pure hilarity' (Ed Fest Mag). Pilots with Various Artists, Genial & ITV Studios America. Writer rep: Knight Hall Agency.
Ed Stern @EdStern
7K Followers 5K Following Basic Prog Brit Woke Partridge Remoaner Centrist Dad. Narrative Design video games. My hot takes, not my employer's. He/Him, Bi, ADHD, the usual.
Catherine Taylor @KatyaTaylor
17K Followers 10K Following Writer for hire. Memoir The Stirrings from @wnbooks out now. Former dep dir @englishpen . Co-charmer @BrixtonBooks. Agent: @eleanorbirneWoohoo 🎉Did you know this fantastic BIZ Amrutha has been one year on the block in Honor Oak-this Vegan restaurant has certainly brightened up the SE23 parade & is a great addition to the area-if not yet been I highly recommend #EatLocal #PopInAndSupport #KeepOurIndieBizinBiz
man in cafe who wants everyone to know he’s a singer-songwriter
Stacey Dooley investigates being an actor.
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top #MadMax marks to Tom Hardy for channelling Mel Gibson so enthusiastically - unfortunately it's Gibson's performance from "Lethal Weapon"
He’s done it! In 5 hours 21 minutes and 50 seconds. Christopher Eccleston crossed the finish line of the @LondonMarathon having raised over £10,000 for Big Issue. As soon as he finished the race he wanted to send a personal video message to all of his supporters. Watch below. ❤️
“The team discovered that a single chip responsible for storing a portion of the FDS memory — including some of the FDS computer’s software code — isn’t working. The loss of that code rendered the science and engineering data unusable. Unable to repair the chip, the team decided…
This week marks 10 years at WIRED for me. I know media tribalism is not cool (not to mention praising your employer, sorry) but I'm grateful to have worked for a decade with smart, kind, curious, creative, principled people to make something we can be proud of. Long live WIRED.
In São Paulo, Brasil, one of the sights that struck me was poor people keeping body and soul together by selling trinkets to car drivers at traffic lights. The shock was how many of these precarious workers were obviously disabled. Is this Rishi Sunak's vision for future Britain?
The Z80 is why my life took the shape it has. It would take ten thousand words to map hpw that happened, and the aftershocks rumble yet. It is the device that enabled mt desires.
the Zilog Z80 is finally being discontinued design for the Z80 started in 1974, so this CPU made it 50 years used in many early PCs in the early 80s, and then countless embedded devices also the CPU for Pac-Man, Sega Genesis, and TI graphing calculators
Writing in his newsletter, @henryfarrell connects Fix's observation to one of his own, about the nature of "hackers" and their role in cyberpunk (and post-cyberpunk) fiction: programmablemutter.com/p/the-accounta… 20/
Guy who is about to make you an offer:
I taught at @birkbeck_arts for 14 years, and read a lot of brilliant writing by a lot of wonderful students. But I'm not sure if I've fallen for anything quite as hard as Katie Willis' The Quiet Act of Loving Bones. Get it here - joanpublishing.org/Katie-Willis @tiggerbumble
RT @unloveablesteve: fantastic dream last night where @FakeDaveGreen & I established gigs for pub covers bands in small venues but with lavish, superstar-studded guest performers coming on for one song. Woke up convinced this was a definite business model.
@ModernDayNTK @Pinboard "When Adam delved and Eve span, who was then the gentleman?"
Why is no one talking about the Lovecraftian horror of Myaku Myaku, the mascot of the 2025 World Expo in Japan? The organisers aren't even hiding its Thing-like awfulness. They say it's: "a mysterious creature born from the unification of cells and water". Is it an actual tumour?
The Air Loom Gang never fail
Jupiter be willing
@Herring1967 Surely they can't be hoping to find survivors at this late stage
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