Dave, Crown Court Listings @davelisting
Under paid, under appreciated Crown Court Listing Officer - views are definitely my own! Joined August 2021-
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Nice for a millionaire to make us feel guilty about getting a possible extra £50 a month The work is harder, the pressure is greater, our delivery of justice to the public is being badly affected! Its so hard to live, our personal lives suffer, do I feel valued right now? Do I fu
Nice for a millionaire to make us feel guilty about getting a possible extra £50 a month The work is harder, the pressure is greater, our delivery of justice to the public is being badly affected! Its so hard to live, our personal lives suffer, do I feel valued right now? Do I fu
There is something satisfying when you can 100% prove someone who gets paid 7 times what you get paid, they were wrong and you were right! I may have 3 fish fingers instead of 2 for tea tonight!
Well it's not me unfortunately, but I'll join in spirit and try to be even less helpful and maybe only reply to every other email!
Well it's not me unfortunately, but I'll join in spirit and try to be even less helpful and maybe only reply to every other email!
If an action is taken by someone to cause a specific reaction, why is that person annoyed when the reaction affects them directly? No judgements, just saying....
Making me blush!
Guess that's me right at the bottom then!
Guess that's me right at the bottom then!
And to Court staff please, we're not the Stasi or KGB and if a Clerk asks your name it's probably because you haven't logged in! Please remember ushers are just above minimum wage too and Clerks not a lot more, thank you.
And to Court staff please, we're not the Stasi or KGB and if a Clerk asks your name it's probably because you haven't logged in! Please remember ushers are just above minimum wage too and Clerks not a lot more, thank you.
I became a criminal barrister in 2019. That year I earned £17,300. In 2020 I earned £16700. In 2021 I earned £20,090. At the end of every month I spend more money than I make. This is why I am striking. @TheCriminalBar #barristerstrike #supportthecriminalbar #strike
You can't talk to this kind of stupid!
You can't talk to this kind of stupid!
Has current industrial action made my life and job harder? Yes, but I stand by people's rights and I believe in Unions. If balloted can I afford to strike? No I can't, but can I afford not too! How can it be the pay gap continues to widen? change has to come, people cannot cope!
Best thing about CVP is when defendants are permitted to appear remotely and stand up when the Usher asks the Court to rise. One day the Clerk is totally gonna arraign someone’s groin!
Work, shmirk! What about my hair! Thanks Eunice!
I've used the words 'counterparts', 'pertains', 'salient' and 'whom' today in emails! And I'm 70% sure in the right context! Ooh add 'context' too! I feel I may need to apply for a raise (if that were even a thing we could do)
Literally no Heroes, only blue Quality Street, non choc biccies and Parma Violets in the tub. This constitutes an intolerable work environment! I shall be contacting my Union Rep 😞
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@KitzingerCelia @RMFifthCircuit Don't blame the clerk. The barrister who called the witness should have explained the process to the witness before calling him/her.
Please, any reporters covering court take note. We DO NOT 'take the stand'. We 'give evidence'. There is no 'stand'. We go into a witness box. It really is quite simple. We are not in the US. I'm tempted to hammer this home with a picture of a gavel but we don't have them either.
@davelisting @CrimeGirI Laminator is always broken....
@davelisting @DefenceFaithful Trying to explain CVP, S28 and common platform to a fresh out of retirement judge, is not my idea of fun😬
Oh... and we still get a sh#t salary, have to deal with the fallout from our sh#t buildings, our leave and pension benefits have reduced & we have to jump through hoops for any sort of recognition. I'm meant to be a senior manager yet can just barely afford my mortgage and bills!
We had court clerks at the beginning of the year. Now we don't. We were promised rolling court clerk and usher campaigns. Now we don't. Now we don't have enough clerks or ushers to cover our courts. But we can't say that because the @CEOofHMCTS won't hear of it. Such fun!!
When you meet the client at court and they’ve come prepared with a ring binder full of handwritten notes and have ‘something they’d like to say to the judge’
@benmrowe @CrimBarrister @davelisting @zeitgeistlondon @RichardHuw2 @DefenceFaithful Now, of course, we must have jurors available for any trial that 'might' proceed should a defendant wish to continue unrepresented. So they attend, in their dozens and must be compensated according to the rules. Someone might want to look into the cost of that...
@benmrowe @CrimBarrister @davelisting @zeitgeistlondon @RichardHuw2 @DefenceFaithful Spot on. We could be listing Mentions or TNWs, but they won't flag anything. TRL codes going ineffective will get some attention. Putting a note for no witnesses to attend on day 1 is the best we can do in those circumstances to prevent unnecessary witness attendance.
@CrimBarrister @davelisting @zeitgeistlondon @RichardHuw2 @DefenceFaithful Yep. Vast majority of courts I go to are listing for trial, with no witnesses. Sometimes even Crown by CVP. (Internally) they recognise that stood out trials actually assist our stats and position with government. Good letter on their protocol from Harrow and Isleworth yesterday.
@Adam_Creme I also have court ushers using food banks and working second jobs at night to feed their families. It’s an absolute disgrace.
@JWhohe @Adam_Creme I've also now met a number of court staff who have second jobs to make ends meet. It's a disgrace and all the more so given that they have been asked to take on much more responsibility in the last couple of years.
This is unacceptable. Court Ushers are absolutely integral to the smooth running of our Courts. Almost all of the Ushers I have met are professional, kind and good humoured in often challenging circumstances.
@Adam_Creme I also have court ushers using food banks and working second jobs at night to feed their families. It’s an absolute disgrace.
As we leave the courts to what will be a quieter time, let us not forget the overworked clerks, cleaners, ushers and security staff who are also disgracefully underpaid for the work they do. Their patience and courtesy to us in the face of incredible pressures is inspiring.
@davelisting And that’s why a strong union willing to call a strike is necessary.
Please accept my apologies in advance. I think I'm going to be crabby tomorrow. If you get your head bitten off by a list officer, it might be me.
@kathy_hirst @DominicRaab <<if you want to do something for Victims (or what we in the know call complainants) then you would fund the Criminal Justice System appropriately so that the Police, CPS, HMCTS and advocates have the resources they need to prepare cases properly and thoroughly.
@davelisting I thought I was very careful to be totally balanced and clear
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