No Code Coder @nocodecoder

@aglz14 @softr_io @bubble @weweb_io @drapcode @draftbit @Zoho @AdaloHQ @BlazeNoCode @flutterflow @webflow @quarklyapp @Hostinger @WordPress @plasmicapp Don't forget Nordcraft in the no-code app builder list.

@ThrillaRilla369 I'm still gonna do it.

@GamewithDave

@KatyKray73 Not so sure. After a few weeks in Australia some years ago, I was visiting my brother in Kent and I thought "there are a lot of Aussies living around here" til my brother explained that they were actually locals and that their accent is very similar to Aussie. So Aussie= Kentish.

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@kylegawley If your SaaS hasn't written itself in 2 hours you're a failure. Apparently.

@Vikas_bril @kylegawley That's a bunch of crap. Have you seen how capable no-code/visual dev platforms have become?! Tools like Nordcraft and WeWeb are incredibly powerful, easily comparable to code. And 1,000s of actual products that have real customers have been built on these (including my own).

@dawiddrzala @Layton_Gott Agree. And 80% of the time, flying with auto-pilot works just fine. It's that other 20% of the time I'd be worried about. I wouldn't wanna be on that plane when it goes wrong & the vibe-pilot doesn't have a clue what he's doing 😬

My wife recently started making bread. After a number of goes she nailed it, as good as the local bakery and much better than shop bought. Then I realised, if anyone can do this then bakeries are finished, no one will ever buy bread again cos they'll just make their own. Right?

@sickdotdev I hate myself and everything I've everything I've ever done or created but I still do it daily.

@DanKulkov A week? Maybe you should read the book "Inside Intuit" about the struggles they had in their early days, now with $18.8B a year in sales. Maybe give it at least as long as it took you to develop it in the first place.

@shahh With the AI boom, why aren't you making fat stacks right now? You should be loaded or you're just lazy and bad with money. Oh yeah ... you don't have a crystal ball either. Hindsight, which you now have the benefit of from those events, is always right & always worth nothing.

@delveroin Why am I even here then?

Well, I'm doing a deep dive on it. I'm still on the fence as to whether it's No Code + AI or just AI, but certainly my eyes were opened. Still love No Code/Visual Dev though, so many great tools, it would be shame to lose them to the AI juggernaut, hopefully there's still a place for them in the mix. My issue with AI is cost, but with token costs coming down and models like MiniMax M2.5 making it v cheap (around 5% the cost of Claude Opus 4.6) then it may soon be a non-issue.

My longest standing no-code colleague has rebuilt his Nordcraft & Supabase app (built over 6 months+) from scratch in a week using Claude Code, Svelte, Shadcn & Convex. It's blown my mind 🤯. I've been v sceptical but having seen it with my own eyes, maybe it needs another look. He's not a coder but has worked with several no-code tools over recent years and is experienced at designing & building systems, which he says were essential skills to help him rebuild the app using AI. He says he's now a product manager and the actual programming/coding aspect is done by AI. The original app, built in Nordcraft (a no-code/visual development platform) was in-progress and he didn't think he could meet his March deadline using no-code, so he took the chance to spend time trying to build with AI to see if the reality matched the "hype". It was clear within a couple of days that he was building faster and got to parity with his no-code build in just a week. I'm not posting this to add to the AI hype, quite the opposite. I'm going to test this out myself over the next week or so to validate it, cos I just didn't believe it ... until now! I got into no-code to build applications faster than with code and, despite my initial scepticism, it proved to be correct. If AI enables us to build even faster than no-code then, regardless of my scepticism, I will need to adapt yet again. 😬

3-TRILLION in one week🫨🚀

Alex Atallah @alexatallah

4 months ago

Some updates from our internal Slack agent that watches openrouter.ai/rankings @MiniMax_AI is the first model to break 3 trillion tokens in a week! and @cline is jumping up to #3

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@HauseBenjamin I'm working with OpenCode using Kimi. Claude Code is a little on the costly side for my taste just while I'm trying things out.

Kimi K2.5 on @opencode Zen is hilariously cheap. I bought $20 worth of tokens two weeks ago, and I still have $10.89 left! After 3M tokens! If there's a bubble in AI, it's pricing a million tokens at $25 (and beyond).

@markessien The moats were always in distribution. That's not changed one iota.

@craigzLiszt It's not clear at all. Nothing is. There will be a shift, to what extent is the question. While In tech everyone is frothing over AI, in the real world there's no way every SME is gonna get a jnr to vibe code their own Quickbooks, Hubspot etc to save a few 100/1000 bucks a year.