@dave_beaty @MvonRen @BobKurbel @xnert @ChrisSPITZER7 Yes but that's not really what Marik discusses here. We're looking at the lines of sight/potential paths before that final loss of lock.
@the_cholla @MvonRen @BobKurbel @xnert @ChrisSPITZER7 The physics of Chad's jet's speed and heading, the distance estimate and heading and speed of the object, can be used to create a simulation in physical space. When the auto tracking FLIR looses lock on - it looks EXACTLY like what we see in the FLIR1. FYI.
@dave_beaty @the_cholla @BobKurbel @xnert @ChrisSPITZER7 Yep, no dispute there, Dave. All we’re saying is that the geometrical data (lines of sight/bank angle/speed and *wind*) place the object at ~100 kts, tracking north to south, at ~28-30,000 feet. Remarkably consistent with Chief Day’s account.👍
@MvonRen @dave_beaty @BobKurbel @xnert @ChrisSPITZER7 It's difficult to explain on Twitter but I hope we can demonstrate it in a little paper.
@the_cholla @MvonRen @BobKurbel @xnert @ChrisSPITZER7 The "object" Chad filmed was maybe 10-20 miles south of Nimitz. Poss. hovering. (last call) When Chad's jet was flying towards South CAP on Autopilot (as indicated by the screen) the object seems to move from slight right to left as the jet approaches from north to south.
@the_cholla @MvonRen @BobKurbel @xnert @ChrisSPITZER7 As the object moves across the jets nose from the west to east, the jet continues it's steady southward track on autopilot. Then the FLIR drops autotrack and the object shoots off to the left or east.
@the_cholla @MvonRen @BobKurbel @xnert @ChrisSPITZER7 The sunlight seems to confirm all of this in TV mode. We have the exact angle of declination of the sun and shadows for the day and time. So this would prove that the object was being recorded facing southward from that GPS of the Nimitz on Nov 14 2004.
@dave_beaty @the_cholla @BobKurbel @xnert @ChrisSPITZER7 Yup! Check this out.
@dave_beaty @the_cholla @BobKurbel @xnert @ChrisSPITZER7 Yup! Check this out.
@MvonRen @the_cholla @BobKurbel @xnert @ChrisSPITZER7 I think the object he intercepted was slightly above and to the right of Chad's jet (he was flying south) on Nov 14 2004 around 3PM local time. Seems 'bout right. And the TV mode seems to confirm that.
@dave_beaty @MvonRen @BobKurbel @xnert @ChrisSPITZER7 Agree, and accounting for the wind that was blowing to the south (~100Kts at 25K-30K ft), which likely explains the slight banking to the right to maintain a straight ground track, we get this at 10-15Nm, in the direction of wind. An object drifting south at 1st, then move left.
@dave_beaty @MvonRen @BobKurbel @xnert @ChrisSPITZER7 Drifting with wind while descending (elevation angle decreases) then moving left. Why we say it resembles K. Day description of objects going at ~100Kts to the south, around 28K ft. Although we realize these are different events. To be continued though, this is all fresh.