Joe Darko @joe_darko
Head of Developer Relations at @Snapchat (ex @Facebook & @Microsoft). Hopeless sinner, saved by grace. Words are my own. Atlanta, GA Joined June 2009-
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Told y’all from Day 1. It could have been an app.
Told y’all from Day 1. It could have been an app.
This is powerful! African leaders should take note.
This is powerful! African leaders should take note.
Join us on Wednesday, May 1st for a livestream with our very own @tyrekewhite14 all about the best practices of using and designing your Lenses for Snapchat! 👻 youtube.com/watch?v=sYeYYS…
Breaking my silence to talk about one of my favorite things 💕
Breaking my silence to talk about one of my favorite things 💕
They could have been apps.
The Goat 🐐 of all left backs! You are not saving his shot!!
The Goat 🐐 of all left backs! You are not saving his shot!!
Love this
Story Time - My First “Professional Promotion” at 16. One of the jobs I held in High School was a bathroom 🚽 cleaner and a “bus boy” at a @panerabread in the DMV area. I applied to be a cashier, but that’s what they had then. I hated dirty bathrooms at restaurants, so I made…
I have a theory on why 2nd borns are usually more feisty. First borns came out and everything was handed to them: attention, love, gifts, etc. 2nd borns came and they had to fight for everything that was given to the first. What they know is how they act: fight!
Update: JJ was not “fully” faking being sick but he had no cough. He had a slight fever 🥵 through out the night. Who knows, he may have conjured this fever in attempt to miss school. 🤷🏾♂️ 15 mins ago, he tried to dictate his terms for missing school. Yea right! Glad he’s…
To: The 2024 draft class From: An all-time great Stick around for the surprise. Let it serve as inspiration. #RaiseHail
@joe_darko @vikasreddy My mom would say - if you're sick, you need to recover. And make us lie in the dark, no devices, no wifi, bland food. I never wanted to be sick.
My son thinks he is slick. He is faking being sick 🤒.. then tomorrow hits me with, “I have been coughing, so I want to sleep 🛌 and not go to school”.
We have just announced @Snap's Q1 2024 earnings and I thought it would make sense to share some of the highlights especially given recent news. That said, before I do I want to give a huge congratulations to the entire team who has been heads down doing what they need to do to…
lens studio 5.0.10 beta is out! 🧵we've been thinking a lot about: 1) building AR for friends ✨ and 2) building AR beyond snapchat (too) icymi, here are some fun things we've been working on. - new API for you to access your snapchat friend's list in a lens - lots of fun…
Jeff Bezos was interested in solving the hard problems and the human problem. What problems are you solving today in your business and line of work?
Jeff Bezos was interested in solving the hard problems and the human problem. What problems are you solving today in your business and line of work?
Ibrahim Boona @boona11
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Oscar Falmer @OscarFalmer
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Edem Kumodzi 🇬🇭.. @edemkumodzi
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Denis Rossiev ᯅ/acc @Enuriru
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Lenslist @lenslist
10K Followers 2K Following Join and Create with our XR Community 💜For Brands & Creators – Get Inspired, Learn, Share and Take Part in Challenges. Let’s Grow Together! 💖 #AR #VR #XR
Zhyar @zhikay_haji
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charmaine @charmaine_klee
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maha aldosary @mahadosary_
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JO⚡️🇬🇭 @Joojo_Dontoh
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Mike @ModelsByMike3D
1K Followers 196 Following I make Snapchat filters. Also tutorials at https://t.co/QptJ9aVxIa
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MO JAMA @mrmojama
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osamah ALghamd @AlghamdOsa86205
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ah_like_98 @R1cRBRTqVGStb2B
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@Cannabis @TyMichely
93 Followers 689 Following does YouTube and posts random stuff that isn't funny
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Oscar Falmer @OscarFalmer
12K Followers 1K Following AR DevRel • Top 50 AR/VR Voices • ex Apple, Snap
Edem Kumodzi 🇬🇭.. @edemkumodzi
25K Followers 2K Following Girl Dad, Fitness Enthusiast, Software Architect, Trust & Compliance Engineering @Microsoft, Admin @DevCongress, ex @Thoughtworks @Andela | #BlackOps #JustDoIt
Denis Rossiev ᯅ/acc @Enuriru
14K Followers 573 Following Building performing AR products · Meta/Snap/TikTok AR Ambassador · Clients: Tiffany, Elie Saab, Burberry, Forbes, JLo · https://t.co/rjt1c9z5VC
Lenslist @lenslist
10K Followers 2K Following Join and Create with our XR Community 💜For Brands & Creators – Get Inspired, Learn, Share and Take Part in Challenges. Let’s Grow Together! 💖 #AR #VR #XR
charmaine @charmaine_klee
4K Followers 3K Following product manager of lens studio @snapAR / @snapchat 👻. previously building: xr @unity labs, @microsoft. let's make creativity accessible!
Arthur Bouffard @arthurbfrd
5K Followers 1K Following Creative Technologist - AR R&D | Featured @ Snap, Google, MIT, WIRED, AWE, TikTok | MSc @ King’s College LDN | 📍at the intersection of art & technology
Hart Woolery @2020cv_inc
11K Followers 2K Following Founder of 2020CV. Adding a bit of magic to reality. Backed by @mcuban. Currently building PopFX, AR for live TV
aidan @Aidan_Wolf
14K Followers 3K Following building ar games + @creatorcampusla | made @doodlelens @arhousela @bspaint
maha aldosary @mahadosary_
4K Followers 355 Following Snap AR Lens Ambassador 🕊 AR/VR Creator , Animator https://t.co/WtKThTU1T0
JO⚡️🇬🇭 @Joojo_Dontoh
6K Followers 893 Following Identity and access engineering at @airasia 🇲🇾 | @mmumalaysia Alumn. FFTB. Red devil. Words = mine | RTs =/= 👍🏾 https://t.co/pPJuF73XJJ
Versatile Baldwin Bez.. @jayanaman
13K Followers 4K Following Building @themandeapp, @mycareerwheel & @DocupharmHQ | Pharmacist ex: @ProcterGamble @MerckGroup | @WEF GlobalShaper | @CheveningFCDO @SotonBusiness alum
Mike @ModelsByMike3D
1K Followers 196 Following I make Snapchat filters. Also tutorials at https://t.co/QptJ9aVxIa
nastiyasss @nastiyasss1
693 Followers 384 Following Snapchat AR Lens ambassador Instagram filter creator https://t.co/wgt6ZXyMPR 3d Artist and #cryproart interested
Phil Walton @Fireandknife
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Max Chadwick @MaxChadwickCFB
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Joy 99.7 FM @Joy997FM
2.0M Followers 119 Following News, talk, entertainment and events in Ghana since 1995 | Radio for the discerning listener | Part of the Multimedia Group
Mentava @MentavaInc
3K Followers 2 Following Accelerating K12 education because all children should have their learning needs met
FreeThinking Paul💫.. @PaulDamalie
3K Followers 2K Following Founder @DIHGroup : invest & build innovations for the global south . Exited @AppruveHQ | 👼 investor , Sailor ⛵🇬🇭🇬🇧🇺🇸| checkout my newsletter 🗞️👇🏽
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MIT App Inventor @MITAppInventor
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Nathan C Bowser @nathanc
2K Followers 3K Following Teaching the world's customer-focused brands how to communicate w augmented reality, CMO https://t.co/4VjOGIzBde , #AR #Bikes #PDX #Startups #enby they/them
Dr. Gabor Maté @DrGaborMate
174K Followers 538 Following A renowned speaker, and bestselling author, Dr. Gabor Maté is highly sought after for his expertise on addiction, stress and childhood development.
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أنس الحاج Ana.. @Anl7j
8K Followers 1K Following journalist « Snap AR Ambassador » صحفي مهتم الواقع المعزز سفير سناب لشبكة مصممي عدسات سناب". قناة الواتس WhatsApp channel 👇
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Folks, please let's aim higher. A lot of #AI startups so far are pretty much a SAAS that is basically an OpenAI API call pretending to be a startup. It's like the AI version of Juicero. 😅🤦🏻♂️
I don’t know what he said but this is 🔥 Somebody please translate
Join us on Wednesday, May 1st for a livestream with our very own @tyrekewhite14 all about the best practices of using and designing your Lenses for Snapchat! 👻 youtube.com/watch?v=sYeYYS…
Breaking my silence to talk about one of my favorite things 💕
Join us on Wednesday, May 1st for a livestream with our very own @tyrekewhite14 all about the best practices of using and designing your Lenses for Snapchat! 👻 youtube.com/watch?v=sYeYYS…
These reviews of Humane Ai Pin and Rabbit R1 only reinforced my intuition these should just be apps on your phone or watch, and will eventually become super useful when we can build everyday AR glasses
NEW VIDEO - Rabbit R1: Barely Reviewable youtu.be/ddTV12hErTc This is the pinnacle of a trend that's been annoying for years: Delivering barely finished products to win a "race" and then continuing to build them after charging full price. Games, phones, cars, now AI in a box
People want to say that wealth is not having a nice car, homes or expensive things… But in truth, it’s being able to afford those things in comfort while also having your health, good relationships, and being a happy person.
Excited for this !!! Glory to God 🙏🏿💃🏽
The Black Sheep Foundation is thrilled to introduce Miss @Mzdelah as its new CEO. edwardasare.com/the-black-shee…
The Rabbit R1 and Humane AI Pin are the culmination of a trend of launching unfinished products that are sold at full price and then users get the promised features only after software updates. The Bethesda games approach to selling products is plaguing the AI device category.
NEW VIDEO - Rabbit R1: Barely Reviewable youtu.be/ddTV12hErTc This is the pinnacle of a trend that's been annoying for years: Delivering barely finished products to win a "race" and then continuing to build them after charging full price. Games, phones, cars, now AI in a box
Anthony Edwards looking like MJ.
@joe_darko College degrees are rarely worth the $$ these days. I got mine from WGU, completely online, in 1.5 years and it only cost about $6k.
‘The Long Night' aired 5 years ago today • Outdoor scenes took 55 nights to shoot • Longest battle sequence in film or TV history • Longest #GameofThrones episode ever What are your thoughts on the episode? 🤔
Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah Is the NFL's Most Stylish Player, as Voted by You
New Bills WR Keon Coleman’s press conference is COMEDY 🤣 (via @Matt_Bove)
This might be the most Louisiana start to a career ever! Love this
This is the start of Keon Coleman's first press conference as a member of the Buffalo Bills. Covering this man is going to be a real treat. #BillsMafia @WKBW
I disagree that you dress like Cary Grant. In this thread, I will list some of the ways in which your dress differs and why such important details matter. 🧵
Do I need to have some suits like the ones on the left made? I dress like the guy on the right already but the first guy has a lot more style.
Let's start with the basics. A collar gap can appear if your jacket's shoulders don't match the slope of your natural shoulders. Or if the jacket isn't cut right for your posture. Or the jacket is too tight across the chest (the most likely reason for Tristan's collar gap)
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