@_bezpilotnik@glukianoff This was a piece of your (well crafted, thought prompting, but philosophically deranged) critique that is factually concrete.
Greg does think students must be exposed to people who *explicitly say they want to kill them*.
@glukianoff@_bezpilotnik He read your book, and then wrote a thoughtful commentary (I disagree with ~ALL of it, but it was interesting), while you obviously didn't read his critique (e.g. he disparages higher ed, you think he defends it).
Remember Greg Lukianoff's maxim, "read stuff before judging it."
@stevenemassey@naomirwolf Let the scientist who hasn't written a book about using the tools of their trade to obliterate humanity throw the first stone.
@ban_epp_gofroc@Bryce_Nickels "I offer this peppercorn of wine to certify the criminal intent of our conspiracy. Will you accept?"
"Yes, and I wish to clarify in writing, that I will perform a specific official act in exchange for the peppercorn."
Everyone in the world is forced to take a public vote: endorse scientific fraud, or be honest.
If a consensus of more than 50% of journalists and academics endorse fraud, everyone escapes feeling exposed. If less, all fraud endorsers will feel guilty. They might suffer imposter syndrome, or even debilitating stress.
Those who are honest feel secure regardless.
What do you choose?
@Sauers_ I came into it believing it was genuine.
Horrible. But "humans effortlessly detect sarcasm, but LLMs can't" pushed me over the edge.
Also, LLM's consuse "therapist" with "the rapist" due to token encoding should make even the most naive people wary.
@Sauers_ (Partly LLM. Are you sure?) I guessed it was generated by an LLM tasked with passing a parody of superfical criticism as scholarship... Claude paralleling the Boghosian Lindsey Pluckrose grievance study?
@wozat@Math_files Euler lacked a world model. Operating on abstractions only, he still convinced people that he "understood" in a human sense.
Prompted, "should I walk to the car wash across one bridge, or drive there across 2 bridges," he mathed back: "walk of course".
Not even an idiot.
0) There is no need for microtubules or whatever, but since we still don't understand how consciousness could actually be "experienced" by logic gates, a process outside classical physics *may* be necessary. (I don't think so, and I think the cope is a bit silly... why not just say "god" or "we don't get it yet"?)
There is a lot of confusion in this space, about basic terminology and the ancillary implications of those distinctions.
For example, I think bacteria are "conscious". In any useful sense of a term there must be degrees, and for my usage, consciousness starts from the most rudimentary awareness of internal vs external states, with phase shifts as we abstract and get more complex. 1) You would probably argue the phase step at 2yr old human baby makes them conscious and before that, simply not conscious? I would say that is a phase shift, and the being was conscious before it became aware of itself.
The other issue is that consciousness doesn't grant social, moral personhood. We are products of blood and soil with an authentic lineage and a value grounded in scarcity and death.
Suppose Musk can make a digital copy of himself. Is that a person? Maybe? The clone cares, feels, is hurt by mean tweets. But if he then makes one trillion copies, each a full experiencing "person". 2.) Would you call them persons and grant them voting rights? No.
An AI can become a person, in the exact sense that a jpg of the Mona Lisa is the Mona Lisa. We delete it, we save it, we reinstantiate it.. only when it becomes scarce, when it stops being a commodity could we begin to ask "is it a person?"
@Dissenting2020 -A humble admission: Angie has read Pekar2022 15 times, and she still can't explain it.
+Yet ignorance is relative: Its critics understand even less than she does.
=So what it comes down to for her, is the source's status. e.g. She wouldn't question KGA's work.
When someone values their process (intrinsic motivation) over their product, they seek out and engage thoughtful criticism. Improvement is a joy.
But Zoonati do not respect their craft. Their headline results and concomitant rewards, are everything. Sad.
@EntropyChase Well, it was an effort to read it. It is in my nature to disagree/criticize so it is difficult for me to enjoy anything in which I find no fault.
Fortunately, I've discovered your AI article, which is quite fun so far. :) Expect some feedback, eventually. 😆
Remember that episode of Zoocrew, "Pangolins are back on the menu!", in which Angi's character jumped the shark by falling for a story from a creative writing class, titled "Nature's Veangeance: the Pangolins of Huanan Seafood Market"? (I don't remember the actual title, but something like that. :)
@soncharm@IanSolliec If leaked, it was probably out of a panel of variants. This Ecohealth report describes 3 chimeras experimented with in parallel, to "demonstrate varying pathogenicity".
The most infectious one is most likely to escape, so which one leaks wouldn't be completely random.
@AtomsksSanakan@henri_mourant@tgof137 You want me to address two contradictory statements, neither of which Ridley said, both of which you've *imagined*?
Sure. Why not?
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