Raylene - Undercover Indie ® @UndercoverIndy
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@PhillipHelbig @UndercoverIndy There’s a reason high end audio dealers demo $50k speakers with a turntable or lossless files thru a high end DAC and not a CD player. For every day use, cds are fine, but that’s like saying a McDonald’s hamburger is technically better than a Black Angus Rib Eye.
@UndercoverIndy I prefer it so much but it’s so expensive. I do however run every mix through a simulator at that speed. It’s not the same but it gets a lot closer.
@PhillipHelbig @UndercoverIndy CD is so bad they created DVD audio and SACD to get CLOSER to the sound of vinyl analog recordings. When those formats lunched that’s how we were taught about it. CD’s knee cap freq range. On the best systems vinyl is fantastic, lossless audio is fantastic and cds still suck.
I am very familiar with Steve and his studio Thanks for bringing that up =)
I am very familiar with Steve and his studio Thanks for bringing that up =)
@UndercoverIndy I'm a big fan of Steve Albini (Nirvana, The Pixies, Jesus Lizard, etc) and he insists tape is ideal and future-proof for archiving multitrack sessions so he never uses digital, ever. If you record at Electrical Audio and you want digital, you have to use another engineer. ;)
I record directly from vinyl to tape for my personal use and archival purposes It's expensive but it's my personal preference I have no other choice but to digitize it when uploading to my YouTube channel Hope that clears things up =)
I record directly from vinyl to tape for my personal use and archival purposes It's expensive but it's my personal preference I have no other choice but to digitize it when uploading to my YouTube channel Hope that clears things up =)
@guylevi1 @UndercoverIndy There are still stalwarts like Steve Albini who won't touch anything digital from microphone to master tape but obviously for streaming, it has to convert to digital at some point but that's not an issue since about 1984 when DA/AD conversion became basically transparent.
@UndercoverIndy Yeah, records that destroy a needle, C60s tangled, CDs that won't eject...been there too. 😅
I still visit record stores and purchase from estate sales and antique markets I can spend days in one of those places People just don't take the time or don't have the time to smell the roses anymore I on the other hand make the time but I'm also retired do to disability 🤷♀️
I still visit record stores and purchase from estate sales and antique markets I can spend days in one of those places People just don't take the time or don't have the time to smell the roses anymore I on the other hand make the time but I'm also retired do to disability 🤷♀️
@Middleo99160424 @UndercoverIndy Closer to 20 minutes per side. The longer the length the closer the grooves are to each other. Started losing sound quality at certain point.
Not in my studio it wasn't It's all about workflow now and of course Large format consoles are extremely expensive so most studios have gone completely digital There are a few stragglers that are still 100% analogue but you pay a premium to use them and believe me they get used🤷♀️
Not in my studio it wasn't It's all about workflow now and of course Large format consoles are extremely expensive so most studios have gone completely digital There are a few stragglers that are still 100% analogue but you pay a premium to use them and believe me they get used🤷♀️
Yeah I have a few of them laying around Not worth much monetarily but I keep them around for nostalgia purposes Would I play them on any of my tables ? Nope not a chance in hell lol =)
Yeah I have a few of them laying around Not worth much monetarily but I keep them around for nostalgia purposes Would I play them on any of my tables ? Nope not a chance in hell lol =)
I've saved my share from the landfill but I am only one person We now live in a throwaway society Vintage equipment and people who work on it are few and very far between I still get people asking me all the time but my eyesight is failing so I only work on my equipment 🤷♀️
I've saved my share from the landfill but I am only one person We now live in a throwaway society Vintage equipment and people who work on it are few and very far between I still get people asking me all the time but my eyesight is failing so I only work on my equipment 🤷♀️
Post Super Sugar Crisp =)
@UndercoverIndy As everything is both subjective & objective to drive us all crazy 🤪 Is the sound of the room more important than whether it’s an analog or digital source ?
Again I was just digging at you guys This isn't a true representation that's a given I just wanted to have a little fun this morning Lighten up already lol =)
Again I was just digging at you guys This isn't a true representation that's a given I just wanted to have a little fun this morning Lighten up already lol =)
@UndercoverIndy You statement and Eric statement depend a lot on how stuff was recorded. A needle has it downsides. For digital, to avoid aliasing: frequencies above 22.1Khz have to be removed for digital; so good filters are essential in a DAC.
@UndercoverIndy You pays your money, you makes your choice. Now, be quiet, I’m listening to records.
@poorlemming @UndercoverIndy Yeah I am a luthier looking to go back to work after a battle with cancer and a surgery that messed me up more then the cancer. So I did get more than my share of that argument when a customer comes in wanting a custom built guitar.
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@UndercoverIndy I prefer it so much but it’s so expensive. I do however run every mix through a simulator at that speed. It’s not the same but it gets a lot closer.
@PhillipHelbig @UndercoverIndy CD is so bad they created DVD audio and SACD to get CLOSER to the sound of vinyl analog recordings. When those formats lunched that’s how we were taught about it. CD’s knee cap freq range. On the best systems vinyl is fantastic, lossless audio is fantastic and cds still suck.
@UndercoverIndy I'm a big fan of Steve Albini (Nirvana, The Pixies, Jesus Lizard, etc) and he insists tape is ideal and future-proof for archiving multitrack sessions so he never uses digital, ever. If you record at Electrical Audio and you want digital, you have to use another engineer. ;)
@UndercoverIndy If R2R is unmatched fidelity-wise, why not just leave it on the tape? You've just admitted why digital is ultimately the best format for fidelity and practicality. Because it's transparent and you can store the media with virtually no physical footprint. ;)
@UndercoverIndy Though is we Really want loss less recording. Piano rolls, but even then; don't capture the nuisances of the performance. youtube.com/watch?v=SiW1lB…
@guylevi1 @UndercoverIndy There are still stalwarts like Steve Albini who won't touch anything digital from microphone to master tape but obviously for streaming, it has to convert to digital at some point but that's not an issue since about 1984 when DA/AD conversion became basically transparent.
@UndercoverIndy Yeah, records that destroy a needle, C60s tangled, CDs that won't eject...been there too. 😅
@swazifiction @UndercoverIndy The good ole days where you could spend hours in the record store just browsing through the artwork. I miss them dearly.
@DarthKansasCity @swazifiction @UndercoverIndy way harder lol
@Middleo99160424 @UndercoverIndy Closer to 20 minutes per side. The longer the length the closer the grooves are to each other. Started losing sound quality at certain point.
@DarthKansasCity @UndercoverIndy Well that explains it. Very cool thanks
@UndercoverIndy Well, all music is digitized during mixing and mastering for a good 40 years at least…
@UndercoverIndy Wow! Never thought I'd see that again. That's a real collectable there.
@poorlemming @UndercoverIndy Yeah Thought I would ease myself back to work. At hobby level I do not feel pressed for time.
@kangas87132 @UndercoverIndy What a great hobby. I have mad respect!
@UndercoverIndy Folks are so used to play and toss, planned obsolescence, many won’t spend the money to clean up & refurbish their parent’s and grandparent’s fine electronics.
@poorlemming @UndercoverIndy Yeah getting there, I do not give up or quit easily. I have a neck to build, an acoustic to finish and a repaint sitting in there now, but it is more hobby level atm.
@PazAerospace @UndercoverIndy It very well could have been. All of us that grew up on that, lead paint and hose water are tough as nails and know good sound when we hear it!
@kangas87132 @UndercoverIndy awesome on being a luthier! I live down the road from the guy who built EVH's famous red Kramer. He works out of his house now, I bring him my gits when they need some TLC. Sorry about the health issues bro, hope you can get back to what you love!
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