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The graph is incorrect. The algo royalty alone is $60 for a couple's tri-merge...one credit report. Most first-time homebuyers need several due to elongated searches for the right home. Even repeat homebuyers may need more than one depending on circumstances, esp in a seller's market. And yes, there are credit bureau and credit reseller charges that get added on.
Graph is wrong. Sorry. Basic tri-merge for a couple is $60 for one pull. Most first-time buyers need many of these during the entire home-buying process. Major annual price hikes for a product that even the $fico ceo admits is outdated make this situation even worse. Classic monopoly behavior btw.
No. It’s an outdated product actually holding people back. Even the CEO admits it’s quite dated. So they have been scalping prices on an obsolete product. FICO 10T is a better product but they didn’t hustle it into the market until…competition appeared. This is classic monopoly economic behavior. FHFA Director saw this and acted. $fico $fnma @pulte.
Now you’re starting to sound educated. But many first-time homebuyers (largely couples) need 4-6 credit pulls. Or more. So that is $240-$360 just to FICO. For an outdated product. Yes VantageScore will help. And this is exactly why the $FICO PE has collapsed in the last 2 years. Americans don’t like monopolies extracting economic rents from young families. Plain & simple. $fnma $fmcc
@dayetweets @Hold_Quality You are only proving you have no clue here. First-time buyers pay hundreds of dollars just to FICO and indeed @pulte is correct, 1800% increase in just 4 years.
@dayetweets Incorrect entirely. You don’t know the market. The entire tri-merge bill is MUCH more expensive. Just the $FICO part of the tri-merge is $10 per pull. That’s $30. Plus a spouse. Times many pulls due to lender shopping, expired pulls etc etc. You don’t know this market.
It’s also called: abusive monopoly power that preys on the most vulnerable (first-time homebuyers of modest incomes). There I fixed it for you @DeepIceValue It’s indeed Econ 101.
Wanna know what pricing power is? House buys in US grew only by low-single-digits, but $FICO scores revenue grew 97% in 1 year! 🤯🤯
@ChrisMartzWX Yes good but pls don’t jinx us here.
Graph is wrong. Sorry. Basic tri-merge for a couple is $60 for one pull. Most first-time buyers need many of these during the entire home-buying process. Major annual price-hikes for a product that even the $fico ceo admits is outdated make this situation even worse. Classic monopoly behavior btw.
@ToddSullivan As was on the front page of newspapers in the 1970s, including my Worcester Gazette.
@DeepIceValue @WagieCapital @grok Nonsense comparison on so many levels Chief.
Graph is wrong. Sorry. Basic tri-merge for a couple is $60 for one pull. Most first-time buyers need many of these during the entire home-buying process. Major annual price-hikes for a product that even the $fico ceo admits is outdated make this situation even worse. Classic monopoly behavior btw.
@dayetweets @OPokhrel86135 @patientinvestor Nah they were greedy, trying to turbocharge the stock price. And aside from mortgage credit scores, the rest of their biz was average. So they overly cranked price increases on mortgage credit scores where they had a govt-assisted monopoly.
@StealthQE4 And? And? And no Navy ships were struck. Clown Show.
@OndejNmec16 @FindleysFinance Ok you know nothing. VA mortgages are not under FHFA. And yes those mortgages, as just one example, have been using VantageScore for years. Now more of the US market will do so. Again, if you have no clue about the mortgage market, you ought not be in this stock.
@KrisPatel99 They had it easy for years but now regulators want more competition here.
@OndejNmec16 @FindleysFinance VA mortgages have been accepting VantageScore mortgages for years. Lenders are eager to get away from FICO monopoly and you just heard the announcement from FHFA. MBS investors are ready to go.
@ManuInvests @KetzKK VantageScore has submitted years of data to FHFA & the GSEs for indexing. MBS investors are comfortable with the modeling. It will take some time but the 90+% market share of FICO mortgage credit scores will decline ultimately.
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