11,000 likes and 1.6M views for yet another egregious lie about China by this guy. For the millionth time, there is no "social credit score" in China. Go to China, ask anyone what their "social credit score" is, and people will have zero clue what you're referring to. It DOES NOT EXIST. What does exist is a social credit system that's mostly for companies, to assess whether they're credit worthy for banking purposes. There's also a "blacklist" system: private individuals, by decision of a court of law (where you can defend yourself), can be put on a blacklist if they've committed some specific offenses that they've been sued for, mostly fraud-related. When they're on that blacklist there are some things they can't do like travel by fast speed train (only slow speed), take the plane or borrow money. They can get off the blacklist when they've made amend for whatever landed them there, most of the time it involves them reimbursing the money to the people they defrauded. The concept of this is that you can't go around and scam people and then live a life of luxury. The % of Chinese people who are on a blacklist is tiny wrt the total Chinese population, something around 0.5%. None of this has anything to do with a "social credit score" that evolves based on your daily actions: there is simply no score.
Even good old Wikipedia is somewhat accurate on this: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Cr…
@RnaudBertrand Noah Smith is one of the most deranged actual "disinformation" and "fake news" spreaders alive, and he brands himself and is regarded by the liberal media class as a "fact check loving anti-disinformation warrior". Lying is fine, if you do it for The Cause x.com/zei_squirrel/s…
@RnaudBertrand Noah Smith is one of the most deranged actual "disinformation" and "fake news" spreaders alive, and he brands himself and is regarded by the liberal media class as a "fact check loving anti-disinformation warrior". Lying is fine, if you do it for The Cause x.com/zei_squirrel/s…
@RnaudBertrand I taught ESL and lived in China in 2019. A lot of people I met were definitely aware of the social credit system back then, and I was told me how great it was as it keeps everyone safe and well behaved 🙃
I don’t know what to make of all this. Seems like it is all well argued. With the following, I’m not trying to be combative, just genuinely want to understand. My friend lives in Beijing, and says there is absolutely a social credit score. Attend the wrong meetings, have minor traffic infractions, and you will find yourself hampered in banking, in traveling, in every overlap with government etc. No, I don’t have any evidence, just my friend’s anecdotal account.