P.R. Neider🐦🔥 @Methodist_Prime
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People often flatten Wesley’s soteriology into a debate about human free will. That misses the architecture entirely. The via salutis in Wesley is a Trinitarian drama, Father, Son, and Spirit each doing something irreplaceable.
@SainteSanguis I appreciate it! I think this is such an under appreciated aspect of Wesley
@JohnKav03086498 It absolutely is! That’s one of the reasons I became Methodists
They are successive movements in a single Trinitarian act of redemption. To be saved in Wesley’s theology is not merely to be pardoned. It is to be drawn into the life of the God who pursued you before you knew to seek Him.
The via salutis is not primarily a story about what humanity does or doesn’t contribute. It is a story about what the Trinity has done; completely, irreversibly, and in perfect order. Justification and transformation are not in tension because they are not competing mechanisms.
that initiates genuine moral renovation.
Justification and the new birth are simultaneous in Wesley’s scheme, though conceptually distinct. Justification addresses guilt, it is the forensic declaration of pardon grounded in Christ’s righteousness. The new birth addresses nature, it is the regenerative work of the Spirit
@freemarketeer1 The patron saint of those who seek to evangelize the world!
@YeFutureSaint And I don’t feel as if ANY of them are salvific but I guess that’s an entirely separate conversation lol
@YeFutureSaint I soundly reject both, I’ve softened towards the IC. After learning more about it, I still reject it but I now understand and see the logic behind it. Still completely reject the Assumption though 😂
@YeFutureSaint We do, he remained a good Anglican priest until his death😉 He for sure maintained the perpetual virginity. I don’t think he ever mentioned anything about the IC or Assumption but knowing his theology and view of sin, I think he probably rejected both.
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