@Gravantus Screaming what's going to happen throughout the whole show or game makes it very dull as well there is a balance to be made between both predictability and unpredictability
Better a twist that can be predicted than one that comes completely out of nowhere. There was a movie a few years ago with Helen mirren where the twist ending was just tacked on at the end. Really nothing in the movie before that had anything to do with it. It was jarring, to say the least.
@Gravantus It’s not intentional hints, it’s eye-rolling tropes and cliches
@Gravantus Those people irritate me. A twist being obvious isn't bad if it makes sense and is well put together. Those people get us crazy twists and they complain about those too.
@Gravantus Reminds me of this Onion article: theonion.com/now-that-ive-l…
@Gravantus We suffer from the same fate from time to time with this. Getting the twist is not bad writing, because story elements where carefully placed throughout, so you can reach and enjoy that moment.
@Gravantus the ideal balance is a twist you don't see coming, but in retrospect the signs were there. too overt foreshadowing and you see it coming its not a twist, too subtle foreshadowing and the twist feels random and undeserved. you can foreshadow events overtly, they just aren't twists
@Gravantus You can do the twist either way, honestly. Some things that are 'predictable' aren't necessarily bad - it's not a *bad* thing if the hero wins in the end after the audience predicted the hero would win in the end. You can foreshadow that and still make the story enjoyable.
@Gravantus counterpoint a plot twist is one that is only obvious in hindsight if you can predict it before it happens thats either bad writing or not a plot twist and just regular plot development
@Gravantus A foreshadowed plot twist is a lot better than someone seeing that the plot twist was guessed and changing it which means the new plot twist makes absolutely no sense