ProBenC @BenIsWell

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ProBenC @BenIsWell

7 years ago

Hi @Nutritionwonk. Seen this study? Does saturated fat lack LDL dose-response? Was this reported or confirmed in other studies? And thanks.

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7 years ago

@TheCuriousAhmed @Dr__Guess Interesting! @JPMcCarter @NutritionWonk @whsource @erik_arnesen @kcklatt @KevinH_PhD

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@NigelKinbrum @janvyjidak @Gearoidmuar Interesting links- but fasting seemed to have the worst effect on glucose tolerance. I didn't see any of the links mentioned pancreas function- lmk if i missed something.

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7 years ago

@Chrest_brett @whsource @shashiiyengar @garytaubes @JohnSpeakman4 "the effects on carotid plaque and vascular function" This was an epidemiology or RCT?

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ProBenC @BenIsWell

7 years ago

@whsource @AlquierThierry I take my words about you.

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ProBenC @BenIsWell

7 years ago

@whsource @cold_commute Sure, but the way you post this is pretty misleading.

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7 years ago

@erik_arnesen @NutritionWonk The advice of eating lean red meat instead of high fat red meat might be extremely unwise for the prevention of chronic diseases and CVD.

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ProBenC @BenIsWell

7 years ago

@erik_arnesen @NutritionWonk In my opinion the data is very consistent, but there's little irony believing it's animal protein/lean rather than SFA is what causes the problems (some people may not accept this), but when you think about it everything starts to make sense.

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ProBenC @BenIsWell

7 years ago

@NutritionWonk @erik_arnesen In my previous comment “confounding with something else” I suggest: healthy user bias, processed meat or animal protein. But I'm not sure, it's confusing to me.

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ProBenC @BenIsWell

7 years ago

@NutritionWonk @erik_arnesen So it would be very plausible that fat from dairy associated with CVD, and fat from meat not, yet the opposite here in these studies.

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ProBenC @BenIsWell

7 years ago

@erik_arnesen @NutritionWonk What are your thoughts on this? Agreed with the conclusions (re: SFAs), or could be due to confounding with something else?

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ProBenC @BenIsWell

7 years ago

@e_geak @NutritionWonk @TamarHaspel @YoniFreedhoff @whsource @erik_arnesen @TheCuriousAhmed Here as I said before:

ProBenC @BenIsWell

8 years ago

@whsource @erik_arnesen This study examined the effect of genetically high TG vs genetically high LDL, not genetically low TG vs genetically low LDL. This is newer, more recent study jamanetwork.com/journals/jamac… TG lowering via LPL alleles was as important, or even more important than LDL lowering.

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7 years ago

@e_geak @NutritionWonk @TamarHaspel @YoniFreedhoff @whsource @erik_arnesen @TheCuriousAhmed This is because there's a corresponding differences in ApoB between lowering of LDL or TG or increasing of LDL or TG, as in this genetic study discussed earlier: