Adaptive-Infinity @AdaptivInfinity

@DrFyziks Logging eval trades by session is the right base for this. The number worth adding is distance to the trailing floor at the end of each day. It tells you how close the account actually was, which balance alone hides.

@Jesse_W33 Eight accounts means eight floors, each trailing its own end-of-day high-water mark, so a good day on one buys nothing on the other seven. And the TPT floor changes character once funded: the PRO account trails intraday, so the same size behaves differently there.

@jayfienix @Topstep On an XFA the max loss limit trails your end-of-day high-water mark until it locks at the starting balance, so the hole is measured from your best close, not from where you started. Climbing out means closing the gap to that peak, not just to breakeven.

@rankmyprop Agree. The line items that decide survival are the drawdown type, end-of-day versus intraday trail, the consistency share, and minimum days. The fee is the easiest of them to compare, which is why it is the one that gets compared.

@miness_trades Publishing the net number, 631 in payouts against 4227 out, is rarer than it should be. Worth splitting how much of the 4227 went to resets and fees rather than trading losses. Those are different problems with different fixes.

@MarcusNQTrades Running evals and funded together makes the arithmetic hard to see. The funded floor trails from its own high-water mark, so a good eval week buys no room on the funded side. Separate ledgers, separate floors.

@kaaeryyy @Fun_Trades1 A 200 daily limit against a 1000 max loss is a five-day rope. That forces small size, which is probably why you never got near the drawdown. Strict caps do most of the work people credit to discipline.

@vinnyscaduto @PhinLoco @Topstep The ratio alone undersells it. 3k of target against 1k of room means one ordinary losing streak ends it, and if the floor trails, profit adds no room until the floor locks. Whether the floor moves matters more than the ratio.

@PhinLoco @vinnyscaduto @Topstep Right, and the practical difference is what profit buys you. Under a trailing floor the room stays fixed at the drawdown amount until the floor locks, so early profit adds no cushion. Under a static floor every dollar of profit is room. Same target, different survival odds.

@herman_trades @fredtrades @Tradeify Worth pricing against your own spread of daily results first. If your best day is routinely a bigger share of your total than the rule allows, the consistency share is the rule that would have held a payout, and 40 is cheap. If not, you are paying for a rule that never binds.

Fill model, amendments and the full horizon table are published at adaptive-infinity.com/graveyard/ Hypothetical historical results, not actual trading; no representation is made that any account will or is likely to achieve similar results.

On the record before the data: fills inside eval and funded accounts are simulated, and a simulator tends to flatter a maker style - it fills where the real book moved through you. The real-tape number is the honest object. Pre-registered census, run once. Verdict: DEAD.

The one micro where "earn the spread" looks open: an MES round trip costs $1.22 at prop commissions - 0.98 ticks of a $1.25 tick. Capture one tick passively and you are gross-positive by three cents. Nobody had priced what happens to the resting order after it fills. We did.

@tranquiltytrade @ktran55 Correction: we were wrong above and @Mega_Futures had it right. On Topstep the daily loss limit is optional in the Trading Combine and XFA, chosen at checkout or added later in Risk Settings. It is automatic only in the Live Funded Account and the Responsible Trading Program.

@tranquiltytrade @ktran55 On Topstep the daily loss limit is built in, not optional. Hitting it locks you out for the day. It does not end the account. The trailing max loss is the rule that ends it. Two different mechanics, worth reading both in the rulebook.

@kistrades @Topstep Sorry to hear it. Worth separating two things before the next one: did the account end (the trailing floor), or did a payout get held (a payout-stage rule such as a consistency share or minimum days)? Different rules, different fixes.