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@jeremymstamper Because you need massive training runs in every iteration, letting gippity burn hundreds of millions of dollars in compute on being confidently wrong.

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8 hours ago

@YarlCung @OpenAINewsroom they're absolutely confidential that it'll leak

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@RokoMijic @ItsLulu_7 The simpler answer is that growth isn't actually exponential growth of production, it's a political reframing of the decay of the value of our money as we're diluted by governments who control the narrative.

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a day ago

@dustinodaffer @alightinastorm Good call, it does only ever go up.

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a day ago

@ArtemisConsort @RokoMijic Easiest prediction for lifelong fertility is age of mother at birth of first child. Education effectively extends childhood beyond a woman's most fertile years.

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a day ago

@dustinodaffer @alightinastorm And maybe even occlusion maps.

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a day ago

@dustinodaffer @alightinastorm Pretty sure that LoD, batching and impostors can be vibe coded too.

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2 days ago

@peterrhague @robertkall Dying with a cigarette in your hand used to be quite popular, when people stopped smoking indoors they also stopped becoming impromptu cadaver candles.

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2 days ago

@prof_brunt @summeroff If an "ethical framework" hands rights to mechanical processes created by corporations, then you end up prioritizing fakery by capital owners over actual human suffering. So yes it's important to have an ethical framework in place that doesn't kill everyone.

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5 days ago

Imagine two different types of universe. In the first, all things feel like something, and this is why they move. When organisms move the "wrong" way, they starve or are eaten, move the "right" way they have offspring and survive. Over generations, evolution finds more complex ways of moving that survive. These movements are caused by more complex feelings - a stronger sense of smell and touch, of hunger, or being able to see clearer shapes and so on. This is how minds can evolve in a universe that's fundamentally made of sensation-driven choice. In that sort of universe, when control organs like brains evolve, they naturally evolve to have minds. In that sort of universe, the "laws of physics" are just observations of what matter feels like doing on average, under certain situations - they aren't commandments by the creator. Now let's imagine a second universe - one where things strictly follow rules made by a creator. In this one, actions are caused by rules - feelings have no effect. Brains evolve without a reason to feel anything at all. Having no way to align "how it feels" with "what it does", this universe does not have a biological selection pressure to build the likes of human consciousness. Software exists in the second type of universe - a rule-following system. People believe that we do too, but because we have consciousness they're provably wrong; if we lived in a rule-following system we'd have no reason to have minds. So believing in software consciousness is, IMO, evolution denial with extra steps. bitplane.net/~/doc/thoughts…

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2 days ago

@prof_brunt @summeroff I think you need an actual mechanism though. All behaviour is downstream of substrate, so how can you select for more mind if the substrate doesn't allow it? More importantly, why would mindless systems gain minds at the moment that they're complex enough to fool people?

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2 days ago

@joshmanders > /tmp/install.sh less /tmp/install.sh chmod +x /tmp/install.sh /tmp/install.sh

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2 days ago

@prof_brunt @summeroff We are culling, but we aren't culling ones that have less feeling because gradient descent can't measure it. In biological evolution, where stuff's moving because it feels like it, any selection for complex movement also filters for richer opinions about how to move.

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2 days ago

@prof_brunt @summeroff The variation + selection thing is very much biologically inspired, as are the neural networks themselves. But there's still no selection pressure for building minds.

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3 days ago

@summeroff Consider that you and I are excitations in the same electromagnetic field. Why do we have different experiences? The obvious answer is that we're separated by a gap of skull and air. The experience of electricity in a chip is segregated by its architecture.

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3 days ago

@summeroff Why would anything feel like anything in the second universe? Would it magically happen without a causal link between feelings and actions? That sounds like magic. I don't believe in magic.