@ClarkeMicah If the Ukrainian or any other government wish to join a defensive organisation, and that organisation’s members concur, in what way is that something a third party country gets to veto? Let alone threaten to go to war over. There’s realpolitik, and there’s right and wrong

@tichardfrodin. See what happens if Mexico and Canada join a military alliance with Russia. I suspect Joe Biden might see some disadvantages. Best way of judging your own actions is to ask what you’d think if the other side did it.