H E Pennypacker @HEPennypack1
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We don't choose our beliefs. Finding an inference convincing either forces itself upon us, or doesn't. Atheists, then, are not atheists of their own volition. They didn't choose it. And if it turns out that God does in fact exist, then nonbelief is quite literally his failing.
Christians only make up about 31% percent of the population. The world seems unable to determine unambiguously what constitutes God's revelation. And even that 31% can't agree on how to interpret God's "clear" revelation. If the Christian God exists, he is a poor communicator.
Christians only make up about 31% percent of the population. The world seems unable to determine unambiguously what constitutes God's revelation. And even that 31% can't agree on how to interpret God's "clear" revelation. If the Christian God exists, he is a poor communicator.
Showing the public who they're eating.
Ah yes, God revealed himself in the 2,000 year old medium that was written in an ancient language, decades after the events it records, with disparate accounts, with no originals, and during a time when superstition was rampant. Makes sense.
Ah yes, God revealed himself in the 2,000 year old medium that was written in an ancient language, decades after the events it records, with disparate accounts, with no originals, and during a time when superstition was rampant. Makes sense.
What happens when you die? I don't know and neither does anybody else.
What happens when you die? I don't know and neither does anybody else.
You can't make this stuff up.
Here were the typical Christian mental gymnastics from my post yesterday regarding slavery in the OT: 1) Slavery was just indentured servitude. 2) We're all slaves in one sense or another. 3) Every society has had some form of slavery. 4) God can do what he wants. He's God.
1. God is the greatest conceivable being. 2. A being that doesn't condone slavery is conceivably greater than one that does. 3. Yahweh condones slavery. 4. Yahweh is not the greatest conceivable being. Conclusion: Yahweh is not God
For Christians that affirm evolution and read Genesis as non-literal, how do you square this with the fact that the writers of scripture referenced Genesis as literal history?
Christianity is a moving target. If a contradiction is found, words change meanings, the literal becomes metaphorical, and the past is reinterpreted as the future. Christianity, then, becomes unfalsifiable and ultimately rationally trivial.
Pure evil- from Gods “Chosen People”.
Ah yes, when logical argumentation and rational reflection are in short supply on Christian apologetics, just claim that those who disagree with you are in cahoots with the Devil.
Ah yes, when logical argumentation and rational reflection are in short supply on Christian apologetics, just claim that those who disagree with you are in cahoots with the Devil.
A post-resurrection appearance of Jesus in the Gospel of Mark.
Apparently drowning infants is morally permissible when there's a specific and "perfect" purpose. Individuals like Daniel are prime examples of why Christianity is morally bankrupt.
Apparently drowning infants is morally permissible when there's a specific and "perfect" purpose. Individuals like Daniel are prime examples of why Christianity is morally bankrupt.
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2K Followers 4K Following Mar 4:11b Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables.@MikeWarland @HEPennypack1 Go ahead believe unicorns exist with all sincerity. Now you can pretend to but that's all. We believe that which convinces us.
@HEPennypack1 Very hard to get people to understand this. Even if you ask them to truly believe something crazy or the opposite of their current belief it’s just so hard for them to comprehend.
One of the first pieces I ever learned to play on the piano... and I still can't quite get it right! (Mozart's music is extremely difficult to get right)
Did Jesus ride on a winged horse or receive golden tablets?
@RandalRauser Did muhammed or Joseph smith rise from the dead?
@MereSkepticism @HEPennypack1 But I don’t think we choose what makes sense to us or not. That’s determined based on prior beliefs which we also didn’t choose to find believable.
@HEPennypack1 @MereSkepticism Correct. We cannot choose beliefs. At best we can influence them. She chose to examine the implications behind a first cause argument, and that led to the belief of a God. Try as hard as I can, I cannot believe a lion is with me right now... But if I take some LSD, then maybe?
@HEPennypack1 Basics are pretty well held. I won’t blame God for human perspective either. Happy Friday tho!
@HEPennypack1 @AleMartnezR1 Though you no longer identify, your compassionate and caring nature, reminiscent of Christ’s teachings continues to shine through. You handled Natural Theist here better than I have and I desire to emulate that behavior in the future.
@HEPennypack1 @AleMartnezR1 Thank you he’s seen it and has unblocked me. I will do better next time @AleMartnezR1 and correct you with love.
@HEPennypack1 @darwintojesus @VicedRhino I like that much better than my quick off the cuff syllogism.
Israel could launch a full on attack on Washington, DC, and #GenocideJoe would still support Israel.
@darwintojesus If your thoughts are not subject to determinism, then they are random and cannot be justified. Justified true belief depends on determinism. Free will is chaos personified.
@darwintojesus @creation247 I'm a real atheist. Maybe I won't be by 2030, though. I know for a fact that the Bible is not inerrant, despite being a beautiful and fascinating piece of cultural evolution; it is not a literal description of reality. Also, there's no evidence for the supernatural. I'm an…
@VicedRhino They have to presume without justification that God is a truth teller in order to even claim that God's moral commands are in fact properly and objectively good. They cannot do this with the Christian God. Only the minimalist God they often prop up in its place.
@antitheistdad ‘That I love to sin’ I’m probably more stereotypically straight laced and ‘leave it to Beaver’ than many of these people combined. I don’t drink, don’t smoke and have no gambling or other vices. Nor do I beat women or children. I also pay my taxes. The horror!!
Only if it were the only piece of evidence under consideration. It is not. I have multiple lines of evidence available to me both for Atheism and for Theism. The evidence for Atheism I have available to me overrides the evidence for Theism available to me.
@Renevelation There is no proof in disciplines other than deductive logic and math, only evidence. And the evidence, by your standard in the OP, points to near universal belief in God, which should make you a deist/theist.
@HEPennypack1 I have unblocked him already.
Nothing Ever Happensbros, I think we might be well and truly fucked. I live in the US so it's unlikely I'll be directly impacted by a regional war in the ME, but if things spiral out of control and WW3 actually starts...well, I might as well say I'm glad to have met all of you.