@TwitchyCoD @Retired_NA @BrianStats1 Agreed the talent has gotten better but saying that back in the jetpack days optic was playing just plumbers is just straight bs lmao and having so many good players in their prime and young talents coming up aswell
@BobaFett316 @Retired_NA @BrianStats1 These were the top 8 teams at champs… let’s be honest, outside of Optic and Denial, and maybe faze red, LV legion is dog walking every other team on this list.
@TwitchyCoD @Retired_NA @BrianStats1 Bro what? Those are not bad teams at all💀 you are just disrespecting the talent back then. The talent in the cdl has increased yes but thats like saying mj winning 3 straight isnt as impressive because players now are more talented lmao
@BobaFett316 @Retired_NA @BrianStats1 Also, my point was to say it isn’t easier to win now, not that what optic did wasn’t impressive. Optic dominated this game alongside faze, but every team outside of OG/faze had inferior talent by a long shot. In CW there were several teams that could rival fazes talent.
@TwitchyCoD @Retired_NA @BrianStats1 Still if you compare what the 2 teams did, optics stats and record is more dominant and thats just facts, there is no way to use "talent" as a way to argue it
@BobaFett316 @Retired_NA @BrianStats1 It’s really not more dominant. Optic had a higher average placement, faze had a higher event win rate. They were essentially equal in series win rate. I think Fazes was more impressive because they won champs and did it against harder competition. But it’s atleast close.
@TwitchyCoD @Retired_NA @BrianStats1 The champs thing is stupid because its just another tourney, also the format faze played in was only 3 or 4 series for a chip while optic had to grind out a full weekend with way more matches, consistency is hard no matter what era so with 14 tourneys and way more matches
@BobaFett316 @Retired_NA @BrianStats1 That’s like saying “Super Bowls don’t matter cause it’s just another game”. Every player knows champs is the big one, and they all want to win it most. Stupid argument. And I’ve legit said what optic did was dominant and impressive. But you’re trying to argue less games = easier
@TwitchyCoD @Retired_NA @BrianStats1 More like saying world cup isnt way more worth than the champions league lmao. Yea world cup is the greatest but not winnin the world cup but winning everything else is better than just the world cup. And more games means having to be more consistant wich is the hardest thing
@BobaFett316 @Retired_NA @BrianStats1 I agree. Winning everything and losing champs is better than losing everything and winning champs. Only difference is faze won everything AND won champs. Why was the dynasty cemented as a dynasty only when they won champs? Because CHAMPS is most important.
@TwitchyCoD @Retired_NA @BrianStats1 The only actual argument you have is saying faze won champs and optic didnt but thats not a big thing. Im saying winning 9 out of 14 event while getting to 13 finals is more dominant than what faze did